Tuesday update

SHORT TERM: rally continues, DOW +76

Overnight the Asian markets gained 0.3%. Europe opened lower but gained 0.4%. US index futures were lower overnight. At 8:30 Retail sales were reported lower: -0.3% v +1.2%, and Export (-0.1% v +0.7%)/Import (-0.2% v 0.0%) prices were also reported lower. The market opened two points below yesterday’s SPX 2100 close and then started to rally. At 10am Business inventories were reported higher: +0.3% v +0.4%. The rally continued until noon when the SPX hit 2109. Then after a small three point pullback by 1pm the market moved higher. Nearing 3:30 the SPX hit 2112, then pulled back another three points to close at 2109.

For the day the SPX/DOW were +0.40%, and the NDX/NAZ were +0.65%. Bonds gained 10 ticks, Crude rose 70 cents, Gold slipped $2, and the USD was lower. Medium term support remains at the 2085 and 2070 pivots, with resistance at the 2131 and 2198 pivots. Tomorrow: the PPI and NY FED at 8:30, Industrial production (est. +0.1%) at 9:15, Congressional testimony from FED chair Yellen at 10am, then the FED’s beige book at 2pm.

The market opened slightly lower today, ignored the slight negative short term divergence, then continued higher. The lower open ended the three day streak of gap up openings, and the market rallied without any overnight influence for the first time since the SPX 2045 low. We continue to observe three waves up from that low: 2074-2051-2112. Today we posted the two lower levels on the hourly chart. Lots of economic activity tomorrow, which could create some volatility short term. We would expect the next notable pullback, however, to be just wave 4 of a five wave rally to kickoff the new uptrend. Short term support remains at the 2085 and 2070 pivots, with resistance at the 2131 and 2198 pivots. Short term momentum is again displaying a slight negative divergence, with again no important pullback yet. Best to your trading!

MEDIUM TERM: potential uptrend continues to rise

LONG TERM: bull market

CHARTS: http://stockcharts.com/public/1269446/tenpp

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186 Responses to Tuesday update

  1. fotis2 says:

    Took less than 5minutes to retrace almost the whole move back up geez no break for the bears.

  2. john b says:

    gee was that it? nice numbers HD

  3. ABchart says:

    ES: 38% pullback at 2080 then 2128

  4. H D says:

    Whipsaw Wednesday, classic. 2115R 2104S

  5. uncle10 says:

    I thought the big move up was because there was a deal in Greece. I dont watch much tv but I see there are more votes and more meetings? I thought this greece stuff was past us 😉

    • Nope it’s all part of the wave symmetry ROUNDING TOP

    • zepfan123 says:

      I’ve thought this “Greece Stuff” was supposed to be past us just about every single day for the last 2 months. It’s turned into a bad sequel of the movie Groundhog Day.

    • JeffMilano says:

      The Greek stuff is a big thing. More than one thinks. Germany is conquering Europe without any military power but with treaties and finacial powers. In sicily where as a kid I used to get up before going to school and go out to the shepperds to buy Ricotta cheese. You cannot buy Ricotta like the ricotta that I used to buy. It is illegal. Now what the Eurean technocrats want is or cheese makers to buy dehydrated milk powder and make cheese. Not the milk from goat or sheeps like the Ricotta that used to be made 50 years ago or actualy a few years ago. So life as I know as my father knew is gone. But many financial mechanism that existed where currecies used to go up and down based on commerce is gone so that works out very well for germany since the currency is the same for all EURO. So this is big. I hope that greece sees the light to get out and maybe Others will follow as well and I could go to Sicily and buy the ricotta made from real milk and not pasterized or dehydrated.

  6. NEWBIE says:

    Wallstreet doesn’t want the low of the day to be taken out because they know that may trigger some of the Bull stops, by not allowing the low of the day to hit they can keep all you salivating BULLS in the game overnight looking for new highs. Sure you may have a stop but what good does that do you when their is a major gap down due to Greece, Chinese Market, etc. If my wave 2 target is in at 2114 Bulls are about to get a wake up call- target 1985 spx.

  7. zepfan123 says:

    That Bank Stock Index at a 7 year high today at 79 is not good for the argument of getting a real and sustaining pullback going here soon. As the banks go..usually so goes the broad market The COMP back well over 5100 near an ATH is also a monkey wrench for the “short” case working soon here too.- Still too much sector rotation with key stocks like NFLX breaking out to new highs here to get a good and lasting downtrend going.Any other time in history a 10% drop in the Transports would have caused the broad market to crack and fall for a while. – QE on steroids changed market physics again apparently.- Going sideways near the top won’t be bearish until basically all stock sectors start selling off at the same time and we quit getting quick “V” bottom recoveries like we’ve had for the last 5 years time and again. Lots of former market calling heros of mine like Art Cashin on CNBC have been mostly dead wrong on their market opinion timing predictions since at least 2012. -20 years ago when I started Cashin’s directional targeted market calls were probably 80% right.
    All that said…SPX 2130.82 remains the ATH close,so at 2112 NOW…the possibility that remains the long term top still exists I guess. But we need the Dow and most of it’s 30 stocks,the SPX,COMP,SOX RUT indexes,etc… to do what the Transports have been doing the last 6 weeks.Drop steady pretty much everyday for an extended period with none of those quick “V” bottom reversals back up. And of course we’ll need that VIX to get back over 18 and stay there for a while. Back at the 12/13 area isn’t going to cut it for an extended market pullback.

    • Back in 1989-90 DJT corrected +20% bounce B wave before the other indexes joined in. TRANS went on to decline a total of +45% while SPX declined +20%. From EW perspective, DJT (Inter 1 of Major 5 of P3 of SC1 experience a blow-off top prior to SPX’s; therefore, SPX has some unfinished business the next 10 months to complete it’s Inter 1 wave. What you will notice is that both DJT and SPX Inter 2 wave bottomed at nearly the same time and both did enter a “bear market” (DJT declined 45.6% and SPX decline 20.3%).

      • zepfan123 says:

        Thanks for the 1989/1990 time frame re-cap.- Way more often than not ,the Transports end up being a directional market moving catalyst..both up and down.- From a TA basis…the Trannies are forecasting a lower market out there in the no so distant future.-But we need other dominoes(indexes) to fall…and STAY fallen here to get a real correction going. After the rally back over Dow 18K and SPX 2100..the jury is out.- Obviously both hard core bulls and bears are super frustrated here.- I’m a long term bull overall years out,but my gut says we still get one of those 20 to 30 % corrections out there in the next few months…i’m not buying ANYTHING long here and am mostly looking at opps for swing shorts. What I’d love to see here is a bank stock correction start while the Trannies keep working lower. Then I think the odds for finally getting the market going back to at least SPX 2000 and lower soon go way up.

    • tommyboys says:

      2112 HAS been a repeating theme the past several months – surprised its not a pivot.


  8. bhuggs52 says:

    With RUT down almost 6 pts, and small caps leading the way–a minor correction may be in the works.

    • JeffMilano says:

      A small correction, but then up. On the cycle side / this period should be on the positive.

      • NEWBIE says:

        Jeff, one of these times a small correction/ pullback is going to turn into the BIG ONE and most likely sooner than later- market has tripled in six years with minimal HEALTHY pullbacks. If I was Bull holding long overnight I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night.

        • JeffMilano says:

          NewB, I track intermediate cycles and this period should be on the up side. The cycle as I track has just started. The downtrend ended on a correct timing. Hope all well to you NewB. You are correct that one day this MKT trend will turn and the main trend will be down. However, one needs to go with the flow, if not one burns himself. For now the trend is up and many people have been saying this is the end of P3 and the start of P4. Not yet, in my humble openion. But, again I may be wrong. I saw the other time when we broke down you went long and wanted to tell you, stay with the long since the down trend was not yet over. However with the pricing action on 8th of July end of day that was the end of the downtrend and now the MKT has started an uptrend. There might be a consalidation after some upswings like we are having now but the trend is up. Again, wish you well, my friend.

  9. gtoptions says:

    Feeling more & more like Oct 2014, Technically Speaking. 😉

  10. Bears below desperately looking for reasons to support their bearish positioning is bullish imo, Also seems to be too much focus on news rather than price, have you had a good look at a chart lately ? aimho and glta.

  11. Get ready folks, the energy giants massive write-offs are just getting started and it’s going to hit the indices P/E big time


    • NEWBIE says:

      El Mat, You still holding that short waiting for hell to break loose?

      • Newbie,
        My first ES short lot limit entry price of 2107 (2114 SPX) was executed over night. Since I’m a futures trader I was fortunate not to experience any damage on my ES short position from Friday because I was able to cover it for a gain (stop lost got executed) during Sunday’s mini-plunger. This is the beauty of being a futures traders. Money never sleeps and neither do we (almost, I sleep 4-5 hrs on average).

    • Dex T says:


      The energy giants are fighting against the clock. When a battery capable of storing energy economically is finally invented in the next few years then clean energy will finally become more viable than fossil fuels. Then the conversion will begin in earnest. All of these giants will be forced to downsize.

    • Elmat, All in the price imo, think about it, do you really think that wsj article is fresh news and you are getting it the same time as the rest of the world ?
      Pull up a chart of Bhp and you will see its a screaming buy, +div on weekly/monthly and close to long term trendline. Gl.

  12. kvilia says:

    So I’m starting to see some finance blogs referring to US markets topping soon. I am personally getting very cautios as PIII topping may come earlier than Tony’s estimate. Considering things can get nasty in Aug/Sep time frame this is a risk to me. On top of that late ninetees crisis started with default in Russia before Greenspan applied the irrational exuberance approach, which he later criticised) by consistently dropping interest rates. Well, I actually anticipate major and many Russian banks defaulting in Aug/Sep ( hearing a lot of corporate borrowers are not going to be able to repay their obligations), which could trigger the worldwide reaction. Another problem is that interest rates are at zero now, so how in the world they are going to stimulate markets this time except of pouring liquidity? Another QE? So how many of those it will take before they stop working?
    Just sharing my cautios stance.

  13. ABchart says:

    Hello! 🙂

    SPX: 20 – 25 points pullback needed.


    • reddragonleo says:

      “Needed” is the keyword. Some how I doubt we’ll see it. This looks a lot like the other squeezes that just go straight up 100-200 points with no pullbacks. When it finally has a decent pullback it likely have topped and that pullback will actually be the start of the down move. Look at that mid-October low of 2014 for example… straight up basically.

      • ABchart says:

        Thanks Red Dragon.
        Long-term sentiment indicators I consulted recently show that we are, despite the prices are still high enough, in oversold almost like that of March 2009, or at least that of mid October 2014.
        20/25 points, it’s not too much to ask 🙂
        There is still upside potential beacause European indices are in an intermediate wave 5
        Will see 😉

    • fionamargaret says:

      ..a re-set to zero would be a good buying opportunity……

  14. gtoptions says:

    Thanks Tony
    SPX ~ Reaching for .786 @ 2115 with a clear hourly -/div
    Looks quite impulsive to me. But I’m just a day trader. 🙂
    GL All.

  15. bhuggs52 says:

    Kind of figures Mkts are idling until the votes on the the Greek Situation. Lots of cogent commentaries out there on what the austerity measures would mean to the Greeks down the road. Basically, the handing over of their sovereign nation to the bankers/creditors and further lowered standard of living for the general population. The alternative according to the IMF, debt reduction–which means the bankers/creditors would have to take the hit. Which we know ain’t gonna happen. So I’m left to wonder what happens here in Happyland USA when the sovereign debt reaches unsustainable levels (and of course it ultimately will) and reductions are forced through in entitlements, including SSI, all backed by the pols backed by the bankers who would rather have the general population take the hit. Hey, wait a second. Does that mean Greece is some kind of sign? And will we be a bunch of greyhairs in the streets with protest signs. I like waving a sign. It’s in my blood. Hello, sign sign, for those willing to go eyes wide open.

    • Don t you remember in 2008-2009 when it hit the fan there were worries that money market funds would lose their 1.00% status until Congress passed a temporary law to guarantee money funds could not be depreciated.Next time or the time after that, we won t have a law like that passed and the money funds will pay for losses incurred by the big banks…imho.

      • bhuggs52 says:

        Yeah I seem to remember that the aftermath of the 2008 crisis really have more to do with enormous rescue operations for too big to fail outfits than anything else. But that goes to my point above–about who runs the show and who takes the hit.

    • lbspytrader says:

      From my perspective I do not see how, here in the US we pay for all the local, state and federal pensions. I know a policeman who retired at 55 and his retirement pay is the same as when he was working. Nothing against policemen.

      • bhuggs52 says:

        The public employee pensions can be made an issue, and really a scapegoat issue, because they are really nice pensions compared to what private sector retirees end up with. But is the issue going forward really what a cop or fireman makes in retirement after risking their lives, or what Jaime Diamond made last year and will keep making so long as he and his buddies run the show?

        • bhuggs52 says:

          Further thought on these pensioners who have been made an issue already here in the U.S. and certainly the image is cast of the Greek pensioner somehow being a leech on their economic system, and yet one must look hard instead at how much the very wealthy in Greece are responsible for not paying their share of taxes and then also taking enormous quantities of their Euros out of the Greek banks previous to the present lockdown. It’s somehow always been so easy to blame the little guy and then somehow excuse the wealthy guy because afterall he is cool because….well…he has the wealth and power…up to a point. The rich and powerful govern us and they only have to worry what little bones to toss out every so often so the rabble doesn’t get too roused.

      • mjtplayer says:

        Full retirement at age 55 – same as Greece. Entitlements, pensions & healthcare costs for retirees are the collective reason many local state/city municipalities will go BK.

        When Detroit went BK, 50% of their tax revenue was paying for pensions and healthcare for retirees – yesterdays workers. This left just 50% of revenue for today’s workers, schools, roads, bridges, etc. Obviously unsustainable…

        • bhuggs52 says:

          Detroit went BK primarily because of the shifting terrain in auto manufacturing; and like Greece, it also can be seen as a canary in the mine–or what else will go BK as the basic job terrain shifts. There’s 25% unemployment in Greece. You leave people without jobs and there’s less revenue for the government to operate on and maintain its provisions to the pensioners. Again, if you want to blame the little guy, you’re just doing a service for the rich and powerful. Have at it, brah.

          • Or perhaps the govies overextended themselves? Blame aplenty; the system is way out of whack and not sustainable (and that which isn’t, won’t be). But if you want to believe it is, you have at it brah. Won’t change the end result one bit.

          • bhuggs52 says:

            Ah a good dose of cynicism is always good. But positive change is possible. Popular movements in history have proven such, time and again.

    • mjtplayer says:

      Greece will accept the bailout terms, the market knows that. The question is whether the individual EU country parliaments will approve the deal.

      Slightly HH today in all 3 major indices today, on the New moon, with a Bradley turn date tomorrow. OPEX helping to hold things up, but we should be topping out today or tomorrow and heading lower into next week. Post OPEX weeks usually give back a portion, if not most of the OPEX fluff.

      July VIX futures expire today, the VIX will not be allowed to rally until tomorrow. The banksters have done another masterful job of smashing the VIX into expiration so they don’t have to pay out on their written VIX contracts – the house wins again! Same phenomenon as stocks rising into OPEX to get the bankers call options into the money and crush the puts they wrote – the house wins again!

      • bhuggs52 says:

        There you go. Now we’re in agreement. The house wins because the game’s always slanted, odds-favorite to whomever holds the real power.

        • bhuggs52 says:

          One more final thought on the underlying importance of jobs in any economic environment. Presently in my neck of the woods, the City of San Francisco is experiencing a powerful boom. The legions from Silicon Valley to the south have discovered that there’s this really cool burg up the road with quaint housing, bay views, cultural happenings, historic ambience, great bars, you name it–and so Ess Eff’s in a boom time. Money everywhere. Housing prices going through the roof. And why? Because folks with well-paying jobs moved in. If you pay people well for their labor, voila! Happy times. Take away their jobs, throw them into handout queues and voila! Troubled times. Pretty simple.

  16. Silver getting crushed 2%.GDX near its Nov low.Yellen lying about rate increases to get the PMs into new low territory.We ll see if the + div on weekly gold works soon enough.The volume is so lousy though.I doubt if we ll ever get close to last Oct/Nov panic low volume spike/reversal.If gold can rally in spite of all this today it d be a huge positive…not holding my breath though.

    • uncle10 says:

      gold is a great short. risk 10 dollars to make $100. im sure there will be some buyers at the 1000 area. gl

  17. lbspytrader says:

    Wonder if FRB will ever be posting again.

  18. mjtplayer says:

    DOW Diamonds (DIA) closed yesterday at 89.6 on the McClellan Oscillator, that’s the most overbought reading since early Nov.

  19. To Tony and members of this blog. Does anyone use price channels (Richard Donchian ) on stock charts? I have been trying to find a decent time period for the daily chart and weekly. On the daily I have been experimenting with 20 days and 40 days but have not had enough experience to draw any conclusions yet. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

  20. stmro says:

    Futures choppy / pinned again. Amazing how quickly it shifted from a high volatility to a no volatility environment. Hopefully some movement after the Greek vote.

    • H D says:

      They shut the NYSE down for hours to kill the volatility. Quick 60 point X waves off double bottoms in April and June this year too. If we don’t get some volatility today I’ll be surprised. Using 2115 and 2121 SPX R.

  21. Thanks TC!
    The greatest peace I ever realized was when I succumbed to the notion that the market controls my actions and not the other way around.

  22. jwmcbride says:

    Chart update(click on chart to enlarge)

  23. fotis2 says:

    I was wrong on my comment about No vote yesterday looks like its gonna be very close slight bias No deal for now from Greece…

  24. fotis2 says:

    Looks like a CH in play on DAX 30min DAX 11615 target.

  25. tuesday’s market update and plan for wednesday:

  26. ariez5 says:

    Tony and RC1269,
    Concerning bubbles:
    “A rather classic feature of speculative peaks is the eagerness of speculative companies to issue equities to the public while the getting is good. On that front, fully 78% of the initial public offerings over the past 6 months are companies that have negative earnings; a percentage that eclipses both the previous record of 76% at the height of the tech bubble in 2000, as well as the second-highest extreme of 65%, which was set, not surprisingly, in April 2007 during the distribution phase that preceded the 2007-2009 market collapse. Likewise, private equity firms have been dumping their ownership stakes at a record pace.

    Of course, in equilibrium, somebody has to buy these same shares, and so one has to ask – who was heavily accumulating stock at the very peaks of the equity bubbles of 2000, 2007 and at present? Unfortunately, some of the most aggressive buyers at equity market peaks have been corporations themselves, via debt-financed stock repurchases. In recent weeks, the pace of these repurchases has eclipsed the previous peak that was set (again not surprisingly) at the 2007 market extreme.”
    – John Hussman, 7/6/2015

  27. Thank tony.

    yes, chicken little is every where these days, people keep calling a crash in 2015, we have not had one. The Greece BS, and bailout was just another BEAR TRAP!, hope you did not get caught.

    A good SPX chart. ==> http://www.bit.ly/1fMcakI

    He is saying the bull market is ready ROCKET higher but not yet, you have to be ready, otherwise you will miss out.

    I think the VIX has gone down to the base support now, so there could be a decent selloff on the way. not a crash, but a decent sell off. Look at your VIX chart people. That is giving away all the warning signs as of late.

  28. vinniesj says:

    Nobody here thinks the Dow rising 675 points in 4 days without so much a penny pullback is not central bank driven, overbought, and due for a minimum fib retrace? Anyone?

    • pooch77 says:

      Who cares,you should have went long when the daily charts were bottomed out.Maybe you lucky and get your pullback thur or fri.then from there final high 2200

      • vinniesj says:

        “have went”?… you mean have gone. As for long or short, who said I had ANY position?
        I see CB intervention, I stay on the sidelines till their antics are done. A market in one direction is not a trade, it’s a death trap. Though any higher tomorrow deserves some index puts ATM, maybe out to August expiration. Stop butchering the English language, there’s enough illegal aliens to do that already. “have went”…..

        • fishonhook says:

          Since you are the grammar cop here, I would have put red circles around these sentences:

          ‘When” I see CB intervention, I stay…

          Though any higher tomorrow ‘and it’ deserves some index puts ATM…
          In fact you shouldn’t start a sentence with a conjunction in any case.

          I actually agree with the sentiment of your original post.

        • pooch77 says:

          I do need edit button,grant you that, but you have been bitching about CB’s since you flamed your hands and its just getting tiresome.Do you know how to read a daily chart?

          • nardobeme says:

            Ooooh, it’s gettin’ hot in here, so take off all your… Oh, what now? Seems some Stocktwitter’s have found Tony’s blog! Ha!

    • NEWBIE says:

      Vinnie, this market is more corrupt than Bernie Madoff.

      • zepfan123 says:

        It is…but for the Central Bankers the market ponzi game is legal and they pretty much have the real inside scoop on money flows going in and out of the market and have a no lose situation. Madoff should have been a CB. He’d of made more money being corrupt as CB legally than he did as his doing his own illegal ponzi scheme and he would have died a free man with piece of mind.

      • joecthetruthteller says:

        Newbie, Good one. LOL

    • Gary Lewis says:

      How many days in a row did it go up last year? 31 I think? Let’s not forget how totally obscene this picture can get!

    • uncle10 says:

      I don’t think it was “central bank driven”. I believe the market is controlled by computers/algos in the short term, but given there is not a time that is not now or in other words it is always the short term= the market moves based on mathematics. not the fed, not the cbs, not the jobs data, not gdp, not greece, not if the fed raises rates, not earnings, etc…….

  29. stmro says:

    Holding my short for now. 5th day closing higher is very unlikely so should be able to get at least break-even. I’m leaning towards a push towards 2130 after that brief correction though.

    I don’t expect this market to start impulsing significantly higher even if it makes a new high. Strong seasonality is against it and no doubt earnings will be weak.

    • vinniesj says:

      I hate BS fake rallies, and I truly hope you kill it with your short.

      • reddragonleo says:

        If you hate BS fake rallies then you’ve hate the whole thing from the 2009 low as once QE was put into the market it was all BS.

        • vinniesj says:

          Pretty much. QE did nothing but put the US in deeper debt. Failure is natural, you fail you go out of business. Forests burn all the time, a cathartic mechanism, and regrow strong and healthy. Wall St relies on heroin QE.

    • pooch77 says:

      Should pullback hopefully Thur-Fri than double top next week and hopefully tonys PIV is next

      • vinniesj says:

        You’ll see a Primary Four when every central banker dies in their sleep.
        As long as the money whores live, there will always be a safety net.

  30. Gary Lewis says:

    Newbie, you may be right yet. The spx is still in a downtrend if you look at the monthly chart. In May, SPX failed the three month test of the high. June was a down month and this month, we made a lower low and so far, we have not yet made a higher high. So on the monthly view, the market is going down, even if the close this month is higher than last month’s. Until the market breaks above last month’s high, you are in the right camp.

    And while I have this conviction and have been adding puts, I did buy some calls just in case Tony’s 2500 prediction comes true. At least this way, I should make out OK either way. Got burned too badly going all in on the downside last time . Good luck.

  31. Lee X says:

    Thanks Tony

  32. CB says:

    Thanks Tony!

  33. rc1269 says:

    Thanks Tony

    I think we’re entering greater fool market territory here. Time for everyone to soon figure out where they will be in the pecking order

  34. torehund says:

    Thanks Tony.
    Its all about share(s) and more so currencies.

  35. “We would expect the next notable pullback, however, to be just wave 4 of a five wave rally to kickoff the new uptrend”

    Tony, if top of wave 3 is 2112, how deep wave 4 go ? 2090 or ? And whatdo you expect for wave 5 ? >2140 ?

  36. bhuggs52 says:

    Thanks Tony. With votes up in the EU, the next three days should prove titillating. I hope that word is okay for the blog…titillating.

    • tradeanimal says:

      Bhuggs…did you get the smoked salmon? I stopped by Costco and picked up a pack.

      • bhuggs52 says:

        Hey Tradeanimal, yeah, I got some. Our Costco carries the usual Kirkland, which I’ll get at times, but it’s not wild caught salmon. What I got today is the hot roasted Norwegian salmon. Yum. How do you eat yours? I just enjoy mine straight off the fork.

        • torehund says:

          bhuggs…try fresh loaf, real butter, scrambled eggs on the loaf and 2 slices salmon on top + real home-made mayonnaise and a slice of cucumber and tomato to finish the process. Its a feast, enjoy 🙂

          • bhuggs52 says:

            Wow, Tore, that’s rocking it, man. I will try your recipe; the only thing I do not have is the “homemade” mayo, but I do have fresh tomato and cukes out of my garden, and around these parts in NorCal we do have the real sourdough bread. Cheers! I’ll think of you and tradeanimal while I’m chowing down.

          • torehund says:

            ..some chives mixed in the scrambled eggs (forgot that).

          • bhuggs52 says:

            OMG, now we’re talking. Chives. I also have chives in my garden. People wonder if I grow the funny tomatoes where I live in Northern California, but no, I don’t grow the funny tomatoes.

        • tradeanimal says:

          Crackers and cheese…

  37. mike7x says:

    Thanks Tony. Time to invest in Switzerland?

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