thursday update

SHORT TERM: gap up opening, DOW +20

Overnight the Asian markets were mostly lower: losing 0.5%. Europe opened higher, dipped, then closed up 0.5%. US index futures were higher overnight. At 8:30 weekly Jobless claims were reported higher: 367K vs 365K, the Trade deficit rose: -$51.8 bln vs -$46.0 bln, and both Export (+0.2% vs +0.5%) and Import (+0.1% vs +0.5%) prices declined. Then at 9:30 FED chairman Bernanke’s speech was released: http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/bernanke20120510a.htm. The market gapped up at the open to SPX 1361 and continued to rally. The SPX had closed at 1355 yesterday. By 10:00 the SPX hit 1366, tuesday’s high, and then began to pullback. Around 11:30 the SPX nearly closed the gap when hitting 1357. It then rallied to SPX 1362 by 11:30, pulled back to 1357 again by 12:00, and started to rally again. At 1:30 the SPX hit 1365 and began to pullback. At 2:00 the Budget deficit came in as expected, a surplus: +$59.0 bln vs -$40.4 bln. Heading into the close the SPX closed the gap at 1355, then bounced to close at 1358.

For the day the SPX/DOW were +0.20%, and the NDX/NAZ were -0.10%. Bonds lost 4 ticks, Crude slipped 5 cents, Gold rose $3.00, and the USD was higher. Support for the SPX remains at the 1313 and 1303 pivots, with resistance at the 1363 and 1372 pivots. Short term momentum remained around neutral for most of the day. Tomorrow, the PPI will be reported at 8:30, then Consumer sentiment at 10:00.

The market broke the streak of four gap down days in a row today, with a gap up. The rally carried the SPX back to tuesday’s high at 1366. In fact, the highs for the past three days have been 1366, 1364 and 1366. The OEW 1363 pivot. There is a short term count suggesting all the market activity from tuesday’s SPX 1348 low could have formed a B wave contracting triangle. With the three hits at the 1363 pivot as the a-c-e waves. The lower uptrend line, in this potential triangle, has already been broken to the downside. If it is the current working count the market should immediately head lower. Overall, we are still expecting the market to make lower lows before this correction ends.

Short term support is around SPX 134o and the 1313 pivot. Overhead resistance is at the 1363 and 1372 pivots. The short term OEW charts remain negatively biased from SPX 1395 with the swing point now at the 1372 pivot. Best to your trading!

MEDIUM TERM: downtrending

LONG TERM: bull market

CHARTS: http://stockcharts.com/public/1269446/tenpp

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141 Responses to thursday update

  1. Toots says:

    1349.75 = 76.40% from the days high.
    day longs just got stopped out now its how shorts will be treated.

  2. H D says:

    There’s buyers comin in 52′s.

  3. mike7x says:

    Important “pivot” day today? Over 125 RESPONSES on the Caldaro website? (Top 10 Indicator)

  4. Toots says:

    CL 15 cents from pit low ..Toot !
    ES shorts pressing and the dip buyers bought 1356 ESM

  5. Toots says:

    See yas at the closes
    It will either be at the low or high of the day :)

  6. Toots says:

    ABC down into H D’s HWB ? ES/SPX

  7. H D says:

    1359 is HWB for the week. MA34 and keeps things interesting. IDK

  8. leelee64 says:

    Forget what I say what David says or what anybody says..heres the best advise for a trader in these markets

    • CB says:

      a good one Lee, thanks!! amazing that as kids we actually survive our childhood after our self-esteem gets battered so much…and then …we grow up (and it gets worse ;) ….we turn into whimps…and can’t make any mistakes any more…conclusion? good traders are either child-like..or have very good algos..

      • leelee64 says:

        Nice C B !!!

      • pbnj123 says:

        CB – so well put and spot on ;-)

      • CB says:

        Hi pbnj, well I am still a stubborn whimp with a bad algo..now what ;) And then there is the “watching grass grow” part also…which turns even the happiest kids into borning adults :roll: …Lee can you teach us how to maintain enthusiasm over and over and over again?

    • Brent Calis says:

      Thanks for this. I needed this today. Trading is more about our own phycology than anything.

      B

      • H D says:

        pain is weakness leaving the body. Mistakes happen, always move forward. Or trade bigger :lol:

      • CB says:

        haha..HD…bigger until ur like JPM

      • Igor says:

        “always move forward. Or trade bigger”
        HD lol Martingale betting system?

      • H D says:

        Yep. It’s the mistake I make all the time. Whoops, early, add. I think the “pros” call it scaling in though. :mrgreen:

      • Igor says:

        At the end you can always say that it was a loss in a hedge position :-)

      • Toots says:

        Thats right Igor !

      • CB says:

        is it successful Igor? In any case what ‘s good about the strategy is it’s got a well-defined “end”–when all ur additional funds are already being used…

      • Igor says:

        CB, it’s statistical approach. You have to be as big as JPM, though, to sustain big draw downs.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system)

      • Igor says:

        I must add that markets have “fat tails” and this approach can be a straight fast way to bankruptcy.

      • CB says:

        thx Igor. Kinda crazy..you need to be big enough to do it but you cannot become big pursuing that kind of thinking…well at least we talked about it and we understand why HD put :lol: after “trade bigger” right? …. those casino limits are a good decision though proving that if enough people combined resources and conspired to apply this and played long enough they could wipe out a casino…

      • Igor says:

        I forgot what book I read, but it describes that “pros” gamblers wait for a relatively long series of similar events to occur (for example 5 “red” in a row) before starting to apply Martingale increasing odds in their favor.
        Lesson: if you see that something is oversold, wait till it becomes extremely oversold and a little more before starting buying :-)

      • CB says:

        interesting..well what scares me is that I am familiar with that type of psychology (hmm ;) and have been in a few situations where I pretty much knew what my extreme downside was so I would hang in there…but I don’t like the idea of adding money to a bad situation..it’s the kind of psychology that is more useful in other areas of life, or professions, not in trading…saving people or animals out of hopeless situations, maybe…fighting some really bad odds..kind of sounds like a challenge to me…but not with money…

      • Igor says:

        You are absolutely right. Not in the market. As I said the markets have “fat tails”. It ruined LTCM in 1998. And it has two Nobel Prize laureates as advisers.

      • CB says:

        yes, well they didn’t even get a chance to learn their lesson bc they played like God, and God (A.Greenspan) was right behind them to bail them out…the smartest guys in the room needing to get out of their own way…one of them has a hedge fund again these days , I think
        well, we really need to heed what Lee always says…humility, humility :) )

  9. rj2212 says:

    The 163 pivot dance continues… Not a healthy candle on the 60 min though.

  10. budfox9450 says:

    Like MFRM at 35-36 range, PO is back to old highs…Bud

  11. rc1269 says:

    Looks like equities are going to try to make a run at it. Let’s see how sturdy this 1363 pivot is

  12. scatman12 says:

    Where is David? I am missing his outlook?

    sai

  13. leelee64 says:

    Well hello mr Pivot Time !

  14. blubrd67 says:

    If it’s contracting triangle does it make sense that it’s hitting now for the 4th time 1363 pivot? Or do you see something else developing today?

  15. H D says:

    If it walks like a triangle and talks like a triangle…….

  16. timmy321 says:

    Tony, what are the odds that the bottom is in? Market has held up admirably well.

    • tony caldaro says:

      Still see that as unlikely

      • piazzi says:

        The important question is whether there is enough liquidity to take the market for a good run up

        1340-1360 is a pivotal area and without breaking it, IMHO, there will be no need for any liquidity provide just to help S&P and S&P would be viewed as happily consolidating on its own

        may be the correction is over or maybe it gets another ABC to land in the same pivotal area of 1340-1360. It does not matter. The ensuing run, IMHO, will run out of ammo and will very likely have weak momentum and breadth

        The important thing is liquidity supply. Is there enough for another run from here? If not what would force someone to supply it?

        mayvbe the correction is over

    • piazzi says:

      I am also thinking that, if it comes, it will likely come from Europe whatever the acronym slapped on it

  17. leelee64 says:

    morn

    To say folks were short ESM this morn is an understatement
    Theres ur 10 handle range… 1356 *

  18. M1 says:

    I am moving a bit lower the trigger point for my conditional orders. I have another addicional alt count in mind. This may be a tricky market today and monday.
    Have the same thoughts. 12749 (DOW) and 2900 (NAZ) are the crucial points. BUT I still think we need to see another wave up before these supports are decisively broken.

  19. rc1269 says:

    Morning, all. JPM has been grinder tighter this morning, almost to the point of unch’d vs. before the headline last night. Pretty impressive dip buying really.

    In other news, does the modest PPI give the Bernanke a little more leeway in his fight to re-inflated? Speaking of, Gold has only seemed to go down lately. Acting like it’s a one-factor trade: QE-on, QE-off. Seems like it could wallow until June.

  20. newbie980 says:

    Tony

    I find your analysis this week on the abA-B-abC counts for Major 4 (preferred and alternate) amazing…..

    My calcs show for your preferred count a of abA=1364, b=1374, that C=1325 if C=1.382xA or C=1323 if c=a, OR C=1310 if C=1.682xA;

    Or for an alternate count of a=1348 of abA, b=1366, that C=1324 if c=0.618xa OR C=1298 if c=a.

    Both preferred and alternate counts seem to match well with a 1305 to 1325 final range for Major 4/ abC.

    Appreciate your insights if these counts seem reasonable to you….

    Thanks for the great work and alternative insights!

    • tony caldaro says:

      Hi Newbie, After the decline to 1348 the short term count became a bit vague.So there are many different potential solutions as this time.Including those you noted.Looking for a few technicals to align before we do bottom.cheers!

      • M1 says:

        I am moving a bit lower the trigger point for my conditional orders. I have another addicional alt count in mind. This may be a tricky market today and monday.
        Have the same thoughts. 12749 (DOW) and 2900 (NAZ) are the crucial points. BUT I still think we need to see another wave up before these supports are decisively broken.

  21. M1 says:

    NAZ 2900 and DOW 12749 : The line in the sand for tomorrow….let the condicional orders work for us
    GL …see you tomorrow.

  22. pooch77 says:

    Wow Tony must be clairivoyant(probably spelled wrong) “With the three hits at the 1363 pivot as the a-c-e waves. The lower uptrend line, in this potential triangle, has already been broken to the downside. If it is the current working count the market should immediately head lower. Overall, we are still expecting the market to make lower lows before this correction ends”. Thank you JPM

  23. budfox9450 says:

    Vix – not being mentioned often anymore – yet, it sure looks more positve – from a Bullish
    divergence perspective than the comversation is moving toward. Mood, has moved
    to negative – but the VIX – look at it.

    About 4/10, hard to be exact – VIX make a High, 21.06 and very overbought, as
    Tony would say – then – we get yesterdays high of 21.59, slightly higher,
    but – the Bullish divergence is clear, at least to me.

    SP500 futures – well my count – and Ha – a very weak talent – suggest that the recent lows
    of the 6ht was 1342 low. Was a W3 low, and the W4 was 1363. So, my thinking is
    we drop to 1335 and call it the low, by next Monday, and go higher into Op Ex time frame…..

    • tony caldaro says:

      yes Bud, negative divergence on the VIX … reason for rally?

      • budfox9450 says:

        well, Tony, it is a momentum call at best. the crest of that push using your RSI
        5 appears to be early April @ 21.06, then on the Vix when higher, 21.59
        on a weaker RSI crest. It sure appears to be a divergence that looks favorable
        for a low – late today – the VUSTX fund, began to decline by 3 cents, it too, appears
        to be a possible new short term trend toward – those investor – fearful holding Treasuries
        may feel time to flp to higher yield, aka Fagix fund. The ratio of the FAGIX:VUSTX
        is the Confidence Index – it turned higher today. Confidence Index, often leads,
        sometimes by many months – ala 2007 to was in the spring, but it does, warn rather well.
        SP futures already hit a low of 1344 within the last hour.

        I have a CIT date of the 14th.

        The $NYMO is terribly Bullish as well. Looking at the Old Style NYMO the
        4/10 close was 1358. NYMO was -312, now yesterday we closed at 1354.
        A lower SP close – but the NYMO value was -131. singificantly stronger.

        On a last note – I kinda like your FCX stock right now – it to is looking Bullsih
        to me….

        My call is 1335 at the low,,,,by the 14th or sooner…just and avid fan Tony.

      • tony caldaro says:

        A monday, tuesday low Bud … would set the market up for the Facebook launch and Opex on friday.

      • budfox9450 says:

        meant to say – Bullish….

      • pooch77 says:

        For Bud,check the history on this event…the 15th is venus retrograde

    • fionamargaret says:

      http://www.mcoscillator.com/learning_center/weekly_chart/?utm_source=McClellan+Chart+In+Focus+-&utm_campaign=b77545ca34-CIF_A_Seasonal_Quandary_5_4_2012&utm_medium=email

      Bud, if you read Tom McClellan’s outlook, he also has a low for 14th – always interesting stuff from him.

      Thanks Tony.

      • budfox9450 says:

        Interesting fionamargaret. Since, mid to late 2011. My use of the $NYMO
        has been severely reduced. Since QE2 and Twist. The A/D data looks
        flawed, and thus the NYMO, has also, somehow not the right look. The
        most recent pattern though, does look a bit glaring, and hard to overlook.
        FYI – I have found the use of 2 mutual funds, much more useful for investment
        timing. FAGIX and VUSTX. And, interestingly – Tony’s work here has
        had a sound stability of market timing that I like to see. Even with my own
        work…..Bud

  24. makiori says:

    CB I didn’t see your question on yesterday comments until this evening.
    (Greece/euro). I actually don’t have a strong opinion either way. The European monetary system would survive a Greek exit, as the country accounts for very little in the overall GDP.
    Two issues here: a) the process of swapping local currencies for the common one, is legally “irreversible” and the treaty does not include an exit mechanism.
    b) politically it will be difficult for the other countries to justify to their electorate the money that has already been spent helping Greece, if they were just able/allowed to walk away.
    While I don’t have a strong opinion exit/staying my instinct tells me that it will be a true long Greek tragedy but in the end they will stay in.
    What worries me is Spain, and especially the banking system there. Everyone knows that their books are cooked at best.
    Recently I have been exposed, for professional reasons, to the true extent of some of those banks books. If a realistic mark to market were to be applied, without any shed of a doubt, we would see severe civil unrest. (that’s why I think a proper MTM would never be applied).
    There are at least 2 banks in Italy were I think the situation is a severe as the one described above. The entire eurozone banking system is kept afloat by the ECB, but I think that the size of its ever expanding balance sheet is another reason to stay alert.
    The easiest solution would be for the ECB to push for a euro devaluation vis-a-vis other major currencies, and let inflation running wild/wild-ish.
    This is currently a no go area for Germany, however I think in the end they will bow to the idea as it is cheaper than other options and more manageable from a political point of view.
    all the best

    • CB says:

      Hi Makiori, yeah sorry for bugging you yesterday – I realized how late it was for U afterward..And thank you so much for your views . It’s always interesting to get ur perpective. Greece is so interesting, isn’t it?…on one hand they are so independent & might just leave ..…BUT the banksters rule this world and they’ll never let anyone default & just walk away if they can help it , and they know how to put pressure on countries….some folks I talked to thought that if Greece & some other “good-weather” countries were to leave the euro that would be a win-win, especially since that would mean the prospect of cheap vacations for those sun-worshipping northern Europeans (hard to argue with that, right?) …and that would also make the remaining union stronger internally……so let’s see brace ourselves for another summer of discontent …thanks Makiori …best to you & ur family !

  25. mike7x says:

    Thanks Tony! After today’s action would you expect the downtrend/correction low to be closer to 1340 or 1313?

  26. rc1269 says:

    Thanks for the update Tony. As an FYI, bank credit is blowing out right now with this post-close JPM headline about their sizeable MTM losses. Could be another fun one tomorrow. cheers -rc

  27. leelee64 says:

    JPM taking the futures down in AH
    but not before ESM traded .618 back (pit) at the close.
    These guys are good

  28. M1 says:

    Thanks Tony, I still look for one more try to the upside ..maybe an intraday wave c …for this correction to be over (I expect something like a reversal day)
    If it roll over without any rebound I guess I will be shorting the market when 12749 is broken…otherwise I expect do so at higher level/price.
    GL

  29. cmparis says:

    Just wanted to note that Tom O’Brien mentioned earlier this week that John Paulson’s last 13F filing showed that he had 17 million shares of GLD December 31.(Street Tracks Trust) There hasn’t been much demand of late….O’Brien speculates that he might be in a bit of trouble. Also – GS just reiterated Gold as a buy with a 6 month target of $1840….hmmm. Paulson and GS go way back. LOL. Charlie

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