SHORT TERM: pullback continues, DOW -131
Overnight the Asian markets lost 0.2%. Europe opened higher but closed -2.3%. US index futures were lower overnight, and at 8:30 Export prices were reported negative again: -0.1% vs -1.5%, as were Import prices: -0.2% vs -0.2%. The market opened lower at SPX 1220, bounced to 1224 in the opening minutes, and then broke through the OEW 1222 pivot on its way to 1213 by 10:00. Not a good sign medium term. After a rally attempt ended at SPX 1218 by 10:30, the market made a lower low at 1210 by 11:30. Another rally attempt followed as the SPX hit 1220 by 1:30. But it ended with the same result, a lower low at SPX 1209 by 3:00. In the last hour the SPX bounced to 1215 and ended the day at 1212.
For the day the SPX/DOW were -1.10%, and the NDX/NAZ were -1.55%. Bonds gained 9 ticks, Crude dropped $5.20, Gold fell $54.00, and the USD was higher. Support for the SPX drops to 1187 and then 1176, with resistance now at 1222 and then 1240. Short term momentum is getting extremely oversold. Tomorrow, weekly Jobless claims at 8:30, along with the PPI and NY FED. At 9:15 Industrial production, and then at 10:00 the Philly FED.
When we did our weekend update everything seemed to be in order despite the 36 point pullback between wednesday and thursday: SPX 1267-1231. This was a normal pullback during the previous uptrend. We also had noted; “At this stage of the uptrend we can not rule out a retest of the low 1230′s. But a drop into the 1222 pivot area would be considered a negative both short and medium term.” This week our short term, (FOMC low), and medium term guideposts, (max uptrend pullback 36 points), began to breakdown. This market continues to decline despite the FOMC statement yesterday, which for many months has created a short term low. And the pullback, from SPX 1267, has now extended to nearly 60 points. When we add the fact the Crude has already dropped 5% this week, and Gold 7%, we see the ‘risk off’ trade is back in vogue.
While this market has pulled back to a 50% retracement of the uptrend: SPX 1213. It could pullback further to a 61.8% retracement: SPX 1200. Anything beyond that would suggest this market is no longer in an uptrend. Right now we can count an ABC down from the SPX 1267 high. Short term momentum has hit extremely oversold, and the daily RSI is nearly oversold. Under normal bull markets the SPX would be close to a low and preparing to rally. With lots of economic data tomorrow and options expiration on friday we may need to wait until early next week to get a clearer short/medium term picture. Short term support is at SPX 1200 and then the 1187/1176 pivot cluster. Resistance is now at the 1222 pivot range, the low 1230′s, then the 1240 pivot range. Best to your trading!
MEDIUM TERM: DOW in confirmed uptrend, SPX/NDX/NAZ are not
LONG TERM: OEW wave patterns bullish, but market is fragmented
CHARTS: http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Favorites.CServlet?obj=ID1606987
The Energy sector internals continue to deteriorate. 2% more stocks I follow in this sector issued a sell signal on P&F charts today. BPI of this sector got a Bear Confirmed status. Not a good sector for long trades now.
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Favorites.CServlet?obj=ID4779883&cmd=show&disp=p
Bullish on close over 1220 SPX
thx CC
Hi Catch – Meant to put this up top, sorry. Just a quick comment/suggestion. I realize I am just one voice in the wildnerness, but it seems to me that perhaps you are making your system a bit too complicated. Why not throttle back and just use the strongest signals available when your multiple subsystems, as you refer to them, align properly? Sometimes you issue Standalone signals that may or may not have merit. Recently, you’ve begun issuing what I like to call ‘flyers’, or intra-day signals. For me, I’ve recently found reading the blog a bit trying. If your system is as powerful as you claim, especially when numerous subsystems are in sync, why not go that route, and that route alone, especially if your in vitro results have been quite successful? I realize there are many flavors for many people, but the menu is getting a little confusing. Just a thought.
Thanks for the input Moose. I’ve had a number of people specifically request that I give as much commentary as possible re: what I’m seeing in the system so that they can then take it and use as desired, as they deem best for their own style. It would be unfair to the majority to decrease the commentary so as to make it more clear to the minority. Rather, what would be best for you, based on what you wrote here, is to do for yourself what you suggested I do for you (to the exclusion of the preference of others) and simply just play the signals which are generated across multiple sub-systems. That’s why they have menus, because everybody’s tastes are different. The best way for the provider to accommodate the majority is to put as much info out there as possible and let each person heed or ignore what they wish.
One thing which I had already decided to do is to no longer post my own intraday “proposition” trades, which are based not on the system but solely on risk/reward ratios. This has confused at least two other people. I might dedicate a second blog to such trades/opportunities in the future but will no longer mix them in on my CatchTheMoves.com blog which is dedicated to the system.
Based on the vast majority of comments which I receive, people seem to really like the fact that I am no longer focusing on the smaller, one-day moves but rather on the bigger, longer-term ones. I haven’t found anywhere that issues such specific, immediate-term (beginning the very next day) calls which usually produce triple-digit point moves so immediately and consistently. If you know of any, please be sure to let me know.
I’m expecting the recent leg down to resume in the next 1-3 days — very possibly tomorrow but Tuesday at the latest.
The way Indian rupee has been butchered it’s unbelievable
Casino Royale in INR USD Tony are you watching?
notta
Have a look@charts once, it’s a prechters delight
Here he is again…can’t believe it
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000061885
Tony,if market is already in major c wave of primary B wave,then c(ii) may get bottom today around 1200 level and launch for c(iii) which should go all the way to 1340 kind of level without much of a correction.
thx Joy
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$spx&p=d&yr=0&mn=5&dy=0&id=p34235188626&a=193878014
Not my chart.
Looks like the flea needs something. If your broker chart looks bad, move your money.
http://elite.finviz.com/screener.ashx?v=211&f=ind_investmentbrokeragenational&o=change
thanks for the charts Mike! OBV starts looking bullish to me here.
“I made a killing in the stock market. My broker lost all my money,
so I killed him.” – Jim Loy.
lol It’s really funny CB (Jim Loy). I re-tweeted this joke.
Oh my..I din’t know you were on Twitter too, Igor – I am gonna follow you there too now, …lol…I like that lawyer joke you have there…reminds me of some people I know..lol!
CB, you may like stocktwits dot com. I am actually there.
Oh yes, I like it! Thanks Igor. It could become a major distraction for me, if I let it …
I see that Dr. Duru is on it too …he does some interesting work on how overbought/oversold the market is…have you seen his work Igor?
I”ll take a look at his website. Actually, a lot of good folks over there.
zimbabweanimike says:
December 14, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Great trade vishal.
Really!
Nicely done.
hey cb,was just catching up.kinda out on walk about till jan 6th.
gl pick your spots.
Thanks Mike. Yes definitely time for some R&R. Have fun! These guys have been chasing my stops the last couple days too much. I am getting tired of this too.
“gl pick your spots.” – sounds like Lee…often imitated, never duplicated : ) …. which reminds me…hey Mike, if you ever run into Lee in FL, get him back over here for us, would ya? : )
Good Morning Tony,
I know that you follow money supply and thought you might find my recent post interesting:
nandanshah.wordpress.com
We have yet to see global coordinated asset purchases – QE – and since October 2007, cyclical rallies have coincided with the expansion of the monetary base.
Thank you for all of your great work.
thx Mauka,nice post!
Tony,
BUY Signal 12-15 9:40 am ET
http://screencast.com/t/fWSugXMLwz
thx Scotty
Prego
Tony,
the economic data in US is improving so much that your bullish count just fits perfectly, if some one is a medium-long trem investor these are good levels to nibble.US economic data in comparision to worlwide troubles is a saving grace for equities worldwide
I am a buyer from a shorter trem perspective in SPX at the higher open today
Pingback: wednesday update
Much appreciated
My most detailed public post on gold to date:
http://equitybriefcapital.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/a-technical-look-at-gold-2/
Good one
Thanks for sharing ur insights with us, Ryan. Great work!
Trade war ?
http://www.reuters.com/video/2011/12/14/china-to-hit-us-auto-imports-with-duties?videoId=226857317&videoChannel=75
cCina down 1.59% , but March Copper is starting to rally off of the $3.26 level..& some of the offset MAs are giving a buy on 60 min..let’s se if it can hold up overnight.
China, that is, is off, sorry
Best Case/Worst Case Elliott Wave for DOW SPX NASDAQ
http://www.wavegenius.com/2011/12/14/elliott-wave-forecast-video-for-12-15-11-best-caseworst-case-for-dow-spx-nasdaq/
Interesting, based on the SAMA the market doesn’t look extremely oversold yet.
Stocks Above Moving Average
> 20 Day Average 36.30%
> 50 Day Average 39.77%
> 100 Day Average 44.86%
> 150 Day Average 32.00%
> 200 Day Average 27.55%
Hi Tony; What alternative counts would you suggest if the downtrend continues to SP1030-1080? Following your count from last Friday I was expecting a rocket wave 3 up on Monday but the opposite developed.
Today the STORMM indicators and RonWalker indicators confirmed a new sell signal from Dec 7th see: http://hgpolites3.wordpress.com/ The hourly SP suggested a near term technical bottom at SP1180 a probably a bounce to retest the SP500 50dMA aligning with the OEW SP1187 support level. If that fails other technical formations come into reality and point toward SP 1020 to 1080 support levels. The USD and Gold are going to extremes and from their STORMM indicators and expecting only minor pull backs followed by continued reinforcements of their recent trends. http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Favorites.CServlet?obj=ID4478213
Finally, an intesting post from the Canadian Technician on Stockcharts that squares this recent price action with continued price erosion. http://blogs.stockcharts.com/canada/2011/12/nasdaq-new-highs-new-lows-do-you-know.html
This doesn’t look like a wave 3 up or down — but what other counts are you considering?
Cheers,
Greg
Hi Greg,
The DOW confirming an uptrend while the others did not leaves a couple of counts on the table.
A bearish count would naturally label the 1293 high as a B wave, then 1159 to 1267 as a 1 – 2 of C.
This is carried on the NDX charts.
The bullish count posted remains intact, but is coming under some pressure.
Especially with the risk off trade and commodities falling.
Gold is displaying a pattern it has not shown in three years.
There may be additional risk on the downside.
Unless commodities firm up soon equities could be in for a rough ride.
Thanks Tony for the great (and quick) reply – always read your blog daily – great work, thanks again, Greg
thanks Greg!
How much additional downside risk do you think on Gold Tony?
I agree it looks slightly too early for a bottom; but think it will find one next week.
It will most likely form a positive divergence on the daily chart within a matter of days, but not sure whether it will consolidate above or below today’s low?
Would be very surprised to see it fall below 1462.
Alex, $1463 – $1559
Thanks for your post Greg, found it very interesting.
My method generated a Sell signal last Wed. (Dec 7) as noted on my blog at 11:30 that night and 10:45 the next morning — which apparently the STORMM and RonWalker indicators confirmed today. As I wrote at the time last week, previous occurrences of this particular signal have travelled at least 600 Dow points — so far in this case, we’ve fallen 400 points. I’m curious if you have any downside target based on the indicators you watch.
I echo what you wrote about Tony. I’m not yet convinced that EW has forward-looking, predictive value, especially for the short- or medium-term, but his work (OEW) is the best of that genre and his reports are always interesting and a daily must-read.
Hi Catchthemoves; I’ve not yet gotten a firm quantitative association of signal strength with subsequent SP500 moves – only general conclusions like strong down moves (when the STORMM / R.Walker indicators occur within a few days – as in this case) or STORMM signals with varying degrees of retravements which indicate some sideward moves. Typically I hold my investments with the last signal’s indication of long or short – immeidatley on the day its generated until its either cancelled or reaches a new opposing signal. So in this case on Dec 7th we went short with a leverage fund awaiting a new buy signal and stuck with it when it was fully confirmed today.
Thanks Greg.
Hi Catch – Just a quick comment/suggestion. I realize I am just one voice in the wildnerness, but it seems to me that perhaps you are making your system a bit too complicated. Why not throttle back and just use the strongest signals available when your multiple subsystems, as you refer to them, align properly? Sometimes you issue Standalone signals that may or may not have merit. Recently, you’ve begun issuing what I like to call ‘flyers’, or intra-day signals. For me, I’ve recently found reading the blog a bit trying. If your system is as powerful as you claim, especially when numerous subsystems are in sync, why not go that route, and that route alone, especially if your in vitro results have been quite successful? I realize there are many flavors for many people, but the menu is getting a little confusing. Just a thought.
Catch, you keep saying that your method generated a sell signal where as you got out of short and went long the very next day to be stopped out. So much for your own conviction in your system. You haven’t learnt your lesson to be modest even after getting it very wrong so many times in the last few weeks.
The BPI of the Energy sector lost 10% today and switched into a sell mode. It got a Bull Correction status for now. Interesting that despite falling major indices the market internals remain intact. It keeps me from shorting this market for the time being.
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Favorites.CServlet?obj=ID4779883&cmd=show&disp=p
OIL Buy Pullback…Fibo… 61.8…
http://astrofibo.blogspot.com/2011/12/oil-buy-pullbackfibo-618.html
Thanks Tony! Thanks again, Ben.
Anyone like gold here? Or, will it go to 1450-1500?
Tonester and the titanium trading throng.
NEW BUY SELL INDICATOR
http://markethighsandlows.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/update-new-buy-sell-indicator-daily-sp/
Thanks Tony.
It sure seems like we ‘ve got more of a + div. on the RSI toda… but again this is Opex week, isn’t it?…just another week of markets behaving strangely ..
http://screencast.com/t/i7H4NC4xr9
SP500 Buy Pullback…Fibo 61.8…
http://astrofibo.blogspot.com/2011/12/sp500-buy-pullbackfibo-618.html
FTSE Buy Pullback…Fibo…Time Ratio…
http://astrofibo.blogspot.com/2011/12/ftse-buy-pullback-fibotime-ratio.html
ASTRO Decli Speed…High-Low…
http://astrofibo.blogspot.com/2011/12/astro-decli-speedhigh-low.html
ASTRO Moon Cycle…
http://astrofibo.blogspot.com/2011/12/astro-moon-cycle-total-lunar-eclipse.html
Thanks Tony,