REVIEW
After last week’s rebound, which carried into mid-week, world equity markets headed south on thursday and friday. While the SPX/DOW were losing 4.35%, the 10 Year US Bond hit an all time low of 1.98%, and Gold soared to $1881 on friday. Recession fears, centered around Europe this time, are driving rates lower. While monetary fears, centered around the developed countries, are fueling the rise in Gold. On the economic front reports came in mixed with an interesting theme: rising prices during a weakening economy. On the negative side: housing starts, existing home sales, building permits and the monetary base were all lower. The NY and Philly FED, plus the WLEI, are now all in contraction and negative. Weekly jobless claims increased. On the positive side: industrial production, capacity utilization and leading indicators all increased. What also increased was import/export prices, the CPI/PPI and the M1-multiplier. No wonder public sentiment has reached levels not seen since 1980 – the worse reading in the past 55 years. For the week the SPX/DOW were -4.35% and the NDX/NAZ were -6.60%. Asian markets lost 2.3%, European markets lost 5.4%, the Commodity equity group lost 2.0%, and the DJ World index was down 3.9%. Bonds gained 0.8%, Crude lost 2.8%, Gold soared 6.1%, and the USD lost 0.8%. Next week will be highlighted by Q2 GDP, Consumer sentiment and possibly the world summit at Jackson Hole.
LONG TERM: bear market highly probable
After a 26 month bull market, from the March 2009 SPX 667 low to a May 2011 SPX 1371 high, it certainly appears that a new bear market is underway. OEW has not confirmed a new long term downtrend, but the wave structure since May suggests it is just a matter of time. How long it will last and how far it will decline depends on lots of interrelated factors. The most important one, however, is price. Bear markets are corrections to bull markets. Just like downtrends are corrections to uptrends. Some bear markets have lasted as long as five years, i.e. 1937-1942 and 1977-1982. And, others have lasted as short as four months to six months; i.e. August to December 1987 and January to July 1984. Bear markets end when most have sold out and buyers overwhelm the remaining sellers.
Probabilities, based on time cycles, suggest two potential bottoming windows. The first being Q3/Q4 of 2012, and the second Q3/Q4 of 2014. Should we get a relatively straight down bear market it could end by next year. If it gets drawn out it may require a double bottom and end in 2014. Investors/traders may want to consider getting aggressive on the first major decline and then monitor the rebound. This was somewhat the approach taken at the March 2009 market low. That, btw, was a nasty 17 month bear market.
The bear market is currently in its second downtrend from the May SPX 1371 high. The first downtrend was a minor one declining 113 points or 8.2%. The following uptrend retraced nearly the entire decline: 98 points or a 86.7% retracement. The current downtrend has been quite severe: thus far 254 points or 18.7%. And, the market is currently down 19.6% from the bull market high in only three months.
Technically we had many warnings prior to this current downtrend that something was amiss. The weekly chart even signalled market weakness with the oversold RSI during the first downtrend. Bull market downtrends, historically, do not get that oversold. Now we have a similar oversold condition with the stock market a lot lower. Notice also how the MACD has turned negative. Another sign of an ongoing bear market.
MEDIUM TERM: downtrend low SPX 1102
Thus far we have been labeling this bear market with two sets of labels: 1/a, 2/b and an ongoing 3/c. The reason for this is some significant bear market declines, several waves, unfold in fives (1-2-3-4-5), i.e. 2007-2009, and others in simple abc’s, i.e. 2000-2002. At the beginning of this bear market we didn’t favor one potential scenario or the other. After only three months, and a mini-crash like decline, some of our long term indicators are already getting extremely oversold. This suggests the market is approaching a significant low. The last time they were this oversold, during the early stages of a bear market, was in March 2008. That low led to a two month 14.6% rally, and a retracement of more than 50% of the first significant decline. It certainly did not end the bear market, as the next ten months were quite a waterfall event. But it did provide an opportunty for those trapped in long positions they no longer desired to hold, an exit period. As a result of these longer term technical indicators we are upgrading the SPX charts to display a more typical abc decline pattern, while keeping the alternate potential five wave count on the DOW charts.
For those of you that have been following us for a few years you are aware that we counted the October 2007 high as the end of Supercycle wave 1 and the nasty bear market ending in March 2009 as the end of Supercycle wave 2. The recent bull market was five Primary waves ending Cycle wave [1] of the new Supercycle wave 3. When this bear market ends it will be labeled Cycle wave [2]. It should also end the Secular bear cycle that has been ongoing since the year 2000. This is normal activity for a Secular bear cycle. Counting this bear market as a Cycle wave suggests the first significant decline will be Primary wave A. Then there will be a Primary wave B counter trend rally. To be followed by a Primary wave C decline to possibly end the bear market next year. Therefore, if our long term technical indicators are performing as they should the current downtrend should end Primary wave A. We continue to project, monitor and adjust.
SHORT TERM
The first downtrend, labeled Major wave A, was a five wave decline from SPX 1371 to 1258. Then after an abc Major wave B rally to SPX 1356, this next downtrend is also a five wave decline. This should end Major wave C and Primary wave A of the bear market. The five waves have been labeled as Intermediate waves: wave 1 SPX 1296, wave 2 SPX 1347, wave 3 SPX 1102, wave 4 SPX 1208 and wave 5 underway. Thus far, the two downtrends and intervening uptrend have met all the typical parameters of bear markets wave action.
As we noted in wednesday’s post: http://caldaro.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/wednesday-update-301/. The waves in this downtrend have been displaying a unique relationship. Should this relationship continue to hold Intermediate wave v should approximately equal twice that on Int. wave i. This occurs at SPX 1088, exactly within our OEW 1090 pivot range. Should this pivot not hold, and we enter another extended period of declining prices, we would expect support at one of the following pivots: 1058, 1041, 1032, 1018 or 1007 the low of Primary wave I, (July 10). Technically the setup looks quite good for a possible positive divergence on the daily chart along with an extremely oversold MACD. We’re expecting a downtrend low this month so the next several trading days should be quite important. Best to your trading!
FOREIGN MARKETS
The Asian markets were all lower on the week for a net loss of 2.3%. Three of the five are in confirmed bear markets.
The European markets were all lower on the week as well for a net loss of 5.4%. Four of the five indices we track are in confirmed bear markets.
The Commodity equity group all lost on the week for a net decline of 2.0%. Brazil is in a confirmed bear market.
The DJ World index lost 3.9% on the week.
COMMODITIES
Bonds are uptrending and continued to benefit from market turmoil (+0.8%). The much heralded “biggest bubble of them all” hit record low yields.
Crude is downtrending, but trying to hold the recent lows, lost 2.8% on the week.
Gold continued its uptrend gaining 6.1% on the week. We are seeing, however, a potential negative divergence on the daily chart after a better than $400 rise in less than two months.
The USD continues to downtrend in a sideways pattern losing 0.8% on the week. The recent price action looks quite similar to the base building pattern in the spring/summer of 2008.
NEXT WEEK
A relatively light economic calendar ahead. On tuesday New homes sales, then on wednesday Durable goods orders and FHFA housing prices. On thursday weekly Jobless claims, then on friday Q2 GDP and UofM Consumer sentiment. The FED has only one thing scheduled for the week. FED chairman Bernanke’s much anticipated speech at Jackson Hole on friday. Best to your weekend and week!
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Thanks C B
Ditto !!! It was my pleasure
Not hedging, I did yap about 1101 as a major low because it is a major low. however, Im heavy in cash and not really trading over last 4-5 days… waiting for confirmation. I can see the 1088 level being more comfortable (though probably a bit nerve racking) to begin scaling in for a long reversal. Also, 2 weeks ago (With SP 500 at 1196 pre trading following debt downgrade) I wrote an article looking for 1096-1100 as a major bottom.. .later I updated it to read 1089-1102…. so I havent changed my views, but I am trying to like everyone nail a bottom or close for a reversal trade. Best to all!
David looking for a turn on next Monday,are leaning towards a low by then.
No that’s hedging
Imagine what you would be saying if we were at 1240 instead of 1124
I’ll take a stab…
I TOLD YOU ALL THAT WAS THE LOW
NOBODY WOULD LISTEN TO ME I WAS THE ONLY ONE IN THE WHOLE BLOGGING UNIVERSE THAT CALLED IT>
YOU CAN”T FIGHT THE LAST WAR THE SHORTS ARE DEAD !!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8712286/Pot-plants-in-firing-line-as-Goldman-Sachs-cuts-costs.html
Bummer
Hey Lee they should twit ping you.
Your the pivot caller.
I don’t know ping stuff or twitter. Fwiw
And some days i trade under my desk.
Thx for the site T
Thanks Tony C B and H D
Thanks to the muni mkt and staying alive I’m able to pull it off.
Kids …save your $$$ life is short
compound interest is always in a Bull Mkt
and I mike !!
P.S. I am hoping we do see 1088 so I can actually make a damn trade!
DB- hedging ur comments ? #whatsupwthat
“1146 pivot would be considered quite normal … Minor 4 of Int. vBut a rally near the 1168 pivot would put the short term count into a transitional mode.”
1168 or a bit higher is exactly where I think this rally may be headed…and minor 5 ending above 1101…and the market staying above 1101 for at least 1-2 months.
I repeat IF 1101 is broken I think we may see panic selling and a huge decline in very short time
Well, Im heavy cash so Im just watching and being entertained… nothin confirmed yet with action really. Bin laden highs and Qadaffi lows maybe.. would be interesting. Mercury the planet that is…goes direct on Friday… so next week could shift big if not already. Just wondering when gold rolls down from the parabolic highs here…1907 was my line, guess we will see. Best to all.
Oh BTW
This is my last week of active trading/blogging
Libya really put the pressure on CL prices down 2%
Oh wait thats up 2 %
Later guys
maybe u guys can roast me the rest of the week
enjoy the FLA sun
Hey Tony
Yea I’m done .
Guys I’m 47 I dropped out of H S in 1981 and started on the trading floor in Dec of same year so that’s almost 30 years.
I have gotten to the point a few years back where my investments are paying me better than my day trading is. This is not a biz you do as a “hobby” cause this hobby bites back. My risk appetite has diminished while my age has increased and I’ve been very blessed with my wife and family. My name is Steven but my friends call me Lee.
You guys are awesome.
Steve, Makes sense to me!
Steve, thanks for everything! I’ve enjoyed tremendously talking to you over the last few years, and I’ll miss you quite a bit. I wish you and your family all the best. You’ll succeed at whatever you choose to do because you have the talent and the strength necessary to make things happen. GL to you!
“retiring from active”….hmm,,Lee, are you kicking it up a notch to hyper-active, then or toning it down to simply less active…let us know..so we can figure out how to roast you accordingly
I bet retirement beer tastes pretty good. U can be a part time trader like most of us. We r ok with that.
cheers…..
beer tweeting is always an option
http://twitter.com/#!/BeerAdvocate
Elliott Wave Midday Update Video for 8.22.11 – Amazing intraday call + cup and handle?
http://www.wavegenius.com/2011/08/22/124pm-elliott-wave-midday-update-for-8-22-11-amazing-intraday-call-and-cup-and-handle/
1121 doesn’t get taken out soon in ES I have it going to 1164
on Tonys 10 min chart
INV Head and Shoulder in ES
C @ 1.618 ~ 1136 GL
Thanks dude
Whats going on ?
Not much. U? Thinking ABC into 1136 pivot.
that would fit best with the current trend .were 1/2 way back on the day in es right here at 1133 which = pivot
unless from days low were starting 5 waves up of some type
I need help from the pro’s on Twitter
Needs to overlap 1129.70 IMO.
my man H D
and u don’t even have a pay site
thanks dude
lol…you guys need to get paypal accts to charge the Twitterati for re-selling ur insights to their own subscribers, though..thanks guys!
RE: 60 min +MACD cross today – still holding , in which case 1101-1208-1121..-> 1187 (61.8) min target? ..well unless it flips back into ( – )territory
haaa. All I did was say pivot. That’s Tony’s magic not mine
I have no prob w the twatters tweeting. The more the merrier. We’ll have our own trading pit here soon enough.
Will have to change the site name then.How about; “Trading ES is the pits”, or”E…lliott wave…S”
“All I did was say pivot. ” yea, but u knew WHEN to say it….
Luck=Labor Under Constructive Knowledge
luck again
Nope ,Tony. Modesty schmodesty.. Ur # 1 on Forbes EW list, Lee and HD and #1 traders here, so our guys are simply #1 on Forbers traders’ list…not too bad for one site….
This is my last week here at Tony’s
I am officially retiring from active blogging and trading but
Look at CL here its really felling the selling pressure with Libya coming back on line eh ?
retiring?
Retiring? How old r u? haha… Well I hope we can get u to stay. maybe a 100 point range in SPX this week will get you to reconsider.
“Hi RC, A rally to the 1146 pivot would be considered quite normal … Minor 4 of Int. vBut a rally near the 1168 pivot would put the short term count into a transitional mode.”
Thanks Tony
Hey Dave ,
I don’t snicker at counts just people
Don’t let your ego’s drown out the mkt.
Ok who’s buying here ?
I might bite. Hard not to try and play the Bernie Put trade. After reading the opinion’s of the street, it seems as though most think the market will be dissapointed by Bernie. What does that tell me? Buy, Buy, Buy…But technically it seems we need to see a new low before we proceed. Tough call right now…Dude get off the fence…I know I know..
U betcha Tony
Thanks 5 W up
I was just saying if some folks loved em at the open they must really really love em here
Lee, so far holding friday’s low.
Mkt seems fairly resilient here. No new lows even after heading pretty straight down from the open. Bulls seem to be acting fairly empowered and coming in at that 1120 level.
1120 is the stp. on P@F charts
re: but a new P@F sell sig would only be generated if we trade @ or below 1100
Kind of bummed nobody is talking about CL here.
Some nice fib retraces with little or no heat.
ES opens at the high and Tony’s pivot and trades down to settlement.
Thats the trade.
The BIG rally will come and Im sure catch all the “I told you so’s” off guard.
pretty quiet right now
Lee, we had a big run up on friday too.Then it rolled over as well.The VIX is the VIX.
ok I bit…So what are you seeing on CL? Nice 5 wave move down from ~115, looks like we have seen a nice move off of the bottom from ~75 to ~90 (A?), B? back down to ~78…Are you now looking for a move to .382 90.95 or .50 95.65? A=C – ~95..Or do you think the pull back from 115.60 to 75.71 was it…
I guess I should have just gone straight to Tony’s charts…What I counted as 5 waves down Tony has an ABC concluding wave 4…My bad. Hmmmm..I focus too much attention on S&P I guess…Thanks for the heads up Lee…Now that you will be less active, will you be upadating us on longer term fib retracements/cryptic posts?
SUN 180 Neptun bullish day…
GM guys- HWB 1133
the 1085/90 pivots are all over the blogs and on stocktwits. Tons of fibonacci traders out there with fancy software. That is why it’s kind of interesting that the market is ignoring all of us with those fib pivots and going up big today… we will see if it holds.
thanks for the weekend update tony. congrats on taking top honors on the forbes list. well deserved.
seems like a rally into the bernanke’s speech on friday – when the lack of any imminent qe action – would give the markets a chance to make the final low for this wave.
thx Wldcttr, Bear markets are quite volatile.VIX impyling 3% daily vol.
Could just be a truncated 5 at 1111 here… that is (counting futures) about 97 points down from 1208. That is more or less 38% fib of wave 3 of 246 points. Given that wave 3 was so horridly long and nasty, it’s possible wave 5 is light and truncates no?
Yes that is indeed possible…I was not poking fun of the idea that you were presenting, it was the presentation.
well said.
A bunch of people kind of snickered at my potential ABC 1101 38% retrace wave 2, but hey… have to keep an open mind I think is all. Last summer we hit 1010, then rallied to 1130, back to 1040, then to highs after that… everyone was waiting on 1010 to break last summer, and it didn’t. Just saying, good to keep on guard for a reversal or truncated 5 if that is what this is. Certainly interesting times and with so many writing about 1085-1090 pivots, you have to wonder if the market wont laugh that off here for a few weeks anyways. Mercury goes direct on Friday too…lol
David,
Who else is talking about the 1085-1090 pivot? Tony was the only person I have heard of. I had a target range of 1050-1100 and I happened to notice over the weekend that if this first leg down in a bear plays out like October 2007-March 2008 it should bottom around 1093 or 1081. Those were based on percentages, not pivots. Have not heard anyone else talk about the 1090 pivot aside from Tony.
Just a thought after looking at the futures but it seems that 3 days just isn’t long enough to complete wave v. Wave i lasted 7 days and wave iii lasted 13 days. I know it was 86 points straight down in 3 days but time wise this just doesn’t feel right. Also doesn’t look right. Only index I see that made new lows was the Transports. Aside from that the only one that has even come close to a true retest is the Nasdaq Composite which I continue to think holds to key to where we are headed.
Good morning, happy monday
Seems to me that futures are abnormally strong for us to be in the midst of wave v. What would we have to clear on the upside for you to consider this an A-B-C downtrend that already bottomed at 1101? If we rally above Friday’s intraday high of 1155, and hold, it seems like it looks like 2nd half of last week could have been wave 2 of the rebound uptrend.
Hi RC, A rally to the 1146 pivot would be considered quite normal … Minor 4 of Int. vBut a rally near the 1168 pivot would put the short term count into a transitional mode.
good to know – thanks Tony!
Mkts definitely seem to be in the Big Ben QE3 hope and pray trade this morning.
A lot of traders are expecting lower lows ahead. I insist 1101 (38.2% Fib Retrac) is a crucial support. If it is brocken we may see panic selling and a huge decline.
My guess: 1101 will hold and we will stay above this important support for at least 1-2 months.
G.L
GOLD: http://www.cnbc.com/id/44222624
I insist Chavez’s demand may be the explanation
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-17/chavez-preparing-government-takeover-of-venezuela-s-gold-mining-industry.html
…and some gold bars may be missing.
Bin Laden highs at 1370 and Qadaffi lows this week? Would be odd eh?
http://astrofibo.blogspot.com/2011/08/dji-fibo.html
http://astrofibo.blogspot.com/2011/08/xagusd-fibo.html
Elliott Wave Forecast Video for 8.22.11 – .618 (w1 + w3) targets
http://www.wavegenius.com/2011/08/21/elliott-wave-forecast-video-for-8-22-11-618-w1-w3-downside-targets/
Tony, any thoughts on Natural Gas? Are we heading into a season where we can expect to see some strength, or do we need more time and downside to finish wave b? And then when wave c kicks in, is this likely to be the long upward journey to complete wave c (int) of c (maj) of C (prim)?
I love the breadth and depth of your work. Sensex, CHF, PMs, etc, etc.
Hi BDK, NG is still on hold, struggling to make upside progress.No major buying yet.
Thnx, Tony. Much appreciated!
All,
Did some work this weekend and came up with downside objectives of 1093 and 1081 should this leg down play out as the first leg of the last bear did from October 2007-March 2008.
http://equitybriefcapital.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/positives-and-negatives-from-friday/
Ryan, Added your blog to our links.
Much appreciated Tony.
Tony, earlier on your update, Mangus Z asked about the length of the previous bear market. I was wondering where you have the end of GSC V? I am looking at one of Elliott’s charts and he has GSC I 1850 GSC II 1857 GSC III 1929 GSC IV 1942 and GSC V 2012. When GSC V ended, shouldn’t we have had a larger drop then 1929? Thanks, Rob
Hi Rob, We have GSC 5 in 1929.That drop was 90% of market value. EWT skipped an entire century.http://caldaro.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/grand-super-cycle-revisited%e2%80%8f/
Great write-up. Always nice when you retrieve these gems from the archives for those of us who may have missed them.
http://astrofibo.blogspot.com/2011/08/astro-august-2011.html
Ray Merriman has excellent read on coming week,looks bad for bulls until EOM.
agreed…
As per my wave study Indian market about to bottom for its primary (IV)th wave very soon,may be as early as next week around 4700-4800 nifty level.we are very close to bottom,so now buying time here in India.
You could be right. But I would wait until some of the weekly averages turn up instead of them pointing down.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$BSE&p=W&yr=5&mn=0&dy=0&id=p61475406016&a=214182602&listNum=10
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-17/chavez-preparing-government-takeover-of-venezuela-s-gold-mining-industry.html
http://www.prensa-latina.cu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=316587&Itemid=1
…”El Gobierno Nacional cumplirá con los protocolos internacionales para repatriar el dúctil metal que se encuentra depositado en bancos del extranjero y garantizará que sean las mismas barras que se entregaron en 1989.”
I am quite sure the 100% of the gold is not available at those banks and I would bet the gold bars are not the same.
Now we may have the explanation for a move to $2500 or more.
But if there was a loss of confidence as to whether there was enough gold to cover all of the deposits that had been made, gold ETFs that had been sold, etc., would the gold price go up or down ? Maybe certified physical gold would be worth more, but most of what is being traded is just IOUs for gold.
Rock count only squared, like sold to every one 100 times ?
Now who would pump such a sham?
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Thank you Tony!! Thank you for saving my loonies!!
Thank you for your insight, judgment and class. A testament
of your true character to offer a service like this for all to see
shows what a truly remarkable human being you are!!! very Grateful
and very Blessed!!!
ty Loonie, just trying to help us common guys
To put it simply, will we bottom before Friday’s speech, then rally 10%(fakeout) and then continue the bear market, which I have possibly ending mid-2013?
Im more focused on next week though, possibly bottoming, and then running up friday, and for the next few weeks, on Big Ben’s announcement of fiscal stimulus- but not directly stating QE3.
Your thoughts Mr. Caldaro?
Hi James, Certainly a possibility.
Hi Tony,
I see you’ve got the UK in an irregular wave for Cycle 2, with Primary C already underway.
Since the US is still in Primary A, do you expect the UK to bottom earlier, and if so when?
Alex, They will probably bottom about the same time.
Tony congratulations I really appreciate your hard work day in day out and that’s the secret of your success keep the good work going .Do you think Indian markets have bottomed out and what could be the final bottom?
thx … think we still have about 10% – 15% to go on the Sensex.
Tony, congratulations to become Forbes #1 EWT specialist.
On the other hand, I think it is sad, because the advantage now becomes common knowledge. Hope it will be good for U though.
And again, thank you for everything you contributed so far. I’ve been using it for several years (most be like 2007 something, I don’t remember )
Elliott Wave Weekend Update Video For 8.20.11 – Possible 5th wave scenarios
http://www.wavegenius.com/intraday/2011/08/20/elliott-wave-mid-term-weekend-update-video-for-8-20-11-possible-5th-wave-scenarios/
BTW Tony I saw the Forbes article, congrats
Hey Tony, I saw that you are mentioned on Forbes. Congratulations!!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnnavin/2011/08/19/3-excellent-elliott-wave-technical-analysts/#
gracias
That’s pretty darn cool Tony
Very nice Tony
=)
Nice job T.
Stay thirsty my friend
Congrats, Tony ! What took them so long..?
Hi Toni,
Great report as always.
I have two questions:
1. Where this b wave retrace upto in SP500
2. Do you see a short term top yet in gold and silver?
Thanks
Sai
Hi Sai, Should we bottom at 1090 we could rally to 1240-60.Gold, we’re thinking it might be a medium term top.
Thanks so much Tony. Have a great weekend
Hi Tony,
Thank you very much for your great weekend update, as always. Regarding SPX bottoming @ 1090, I have the following question: Could you please refer to a 15 min. SPX log chart? Since the recent downtrend started from SPX 1210, there were 3 impulsive waves interrupted by 2 corrective waves down to SPX 1130, suggesting that SPX 1130 was wave 1 of int. wave v. The Friday’s early corrective uptrend wave was larger and stronger than the other 2 corrective waves suggesting that SPX 1155 was wave 2 of int. wave v. Wave 3 of this downtrend started on Friday. If this wave structure is correct, most likely SPX will go down beyond your first bottom target of 1090. In that case, can you please tell me all the possible wave relationship between int. wave v and int. wave i? Is it possible that wave v becomes 3 times wave i or more?
Thank you.
Hi Massoodh, That’s relatively easy.Since your wave 1 was 80 points, and your wave 2 was 30 points.The proceeding wwaves will all be fibonacci numbers, i.e. 20, 30, 50, 80, 130 points.best of luck!
Thanks Tony, Excelent weekend update !!!…
I agree the next several trading days should be quite important. And the market should find support quite soon. But, how low can it go ?… Not so sure abt that.
I still believe the 38.2% Fib Retrac at abt 1101 is a crucial support. So I would not be surprise seeing a lot of selling if the market close below that level.
Have a wonderful weekend.
Hi tony, i thought last week you were talking about this spx 5th wave down as very likely to truncate i guess because of the intensity of the 3rd wave. now you like lower lows. can you talk about this? thanks for your work. have a nice weekend. greg
Tony, I’ve been following you for some years and I really appreciate your work. Thnx
For sometime I’ve been thinking about your SC (super cycle) labeling. It seems right to me that SC1 ended October 2007, but that all Cycles a,b, and c ended within 17 months seems very short. In relation to SC1 it seems far to quick for me. I would like to hear your view on an alternative count for Cylce a,b,c as follow instead: Cycle a = your SC2, cycle b = your Cyle 1, and Cycle C ongoing which will conclude SC2. It seems more balanced in time. I know Elliot doesn’t care for time but some other followers do. If you have the time, please!
Hi Magnus, The rationale is this.If a 200 year GSC can correct in 34 months, i.e. 1929-1932Then a 75 year SC can correct in 17 months.
Tony,
With the speed of this potential “A” wave (about three weeks), isn’t it possible that get a 1-3 week “B” wave followed by another 2-3 week “C” wave to complete this entire Cycle wave 2 within maybe as short as 6-9 weeks in total ? This “A” wave sure seems to have come on with a whole lot more speed than what the bull had been running at… TIA!
Hi Tommy, The trends off the top have been about one month long.The B wave will likely take about two months, or even longer.Then the C to follow will take a whole lot longer.
mmm… Thanks Tony have a great weekend!
Thanks Tony. Your weekend is always a good detailed summary of things. It’s quite helpful.
Thanks Tony !
1088 has several relationships, one of which is .786% retracement of the 1010 to 1370 July 2010 low to 2011 highs of 1370. It also is within a few points of Wave 5 being 50% of wave 3 from the 1208 highs. Looks like another BGU trade to me this coming week as we approach. Great work Tony! FWIW, I had forecast gold to pivot at 1862, 1880, and 1907 for Primary 3 highs. Guess we will see if that is right.
Gold had been stellar!cheers!
Back when I first started looking at wave patterns (before I ever heard of EWT or OEW), I just used to watch moving averages (25, 50, 100, 200, 400) and the relationships between them. Recently I went back to my “roots” with this and looked at the 400dMA and this current environment.
Only 29 times since the 1930s has the 400dMA on Dow has gone flat at a top (zero slope). 18 of those 29 times it rolled over, signaling ugly times ahead lasting 6mos-4+ years. Of the 11 times it didn’t roll, it signaled generally positive times ahead. That “non-rollover” condition was recognized within 30-90 days of slope going to zero (i.e. the flat condition was a false indicator).
So… For the 30th time in 80 years, we are about to go flat again on the Dow 400dMA. Another couple of net down days (and barring a huge run up), the slope will hit zero in mid-October. History tells us that indicates a 62% chance of rollover, with confirmation happening by early January.
All of this lines up with what Tony is already saying. His OEW indicators will probably go negative by then anyway. But it is something else to watch.
Thanks Tony!
thx Pat
Very nice market review and write-up Tony. Have a great weekend.
thanks Steve