SHORT TERM: SPX 912 pivot fails to hold support, DOW -514
Overnight the Asian markets were all substantially lower, Europe opened lower and closed down 4.45%. US index futures remained under selling pressure throughout the night, and the market gapped down at the open. By 10:00 the SPX traded down to 913, at the 912 support pivot. It closed at SPX 955 yesterday. A rally to 931 by 12:30, near the next pivot at 935, failed to generate any additional buying and the market headed down again. Then after making a slightly lower low on the day at 908, the market vacillated around the 912 pivot for more than an hour. After that it broke lower. By 3:30 the SPX hit 876 and then rallied into the close. For the day the SPX/DOW were down 5.90%, and the NDX/NAZ were down 4.20%. Bonds gained about 21 ticks, Crude lost $5.35, Gold dropped $43.00 and the Euro was lower. Support for the SPX slips down to 848 and then 789, with resistance at 912 and then 935. Short term momentum is oversold. Tomorrow the weekly unemployment report at 8:30. Time for a recap.
We’ve been labeling this bear market as a series of threes. An ABC Major wave A into the January low. Then an ABC Major wave B into the May high. From this May high the market has moved down in an ABC: July low, August high, and the current downtrend. Each of the downtrends: Nov low, Jan low, July low and the current one have been five waves structures. In basic EW terms this is considered a double zigzag: Nov-Dec-Jan–May–July-Aug-current. The current downtrend should also be a five wave structure, to conclude the final wave of a 5-3-5-x-5-3-5 from the October 2007 highs. The most probable 5 wave count for this downtrend is as posted on the SPX hourly charts: wave 1 (1134), wave 2 (1265), wave 3 (840), wave 4 (1044) and we are currently in wave 5. This fifth wave could have ended at SPX 866 in a 5th wave failure. There is a fibonacci relationship at this level to wave 1. But the rally off that low ran into significant resistance over past fews days at the SPX 990 pivot, and the market nearly retraced that whole advance in the last 24 hours. Since this fifth wave still appears to be ongoing SPX 866 may be Minute 1, 985 Minute 2, and Minute 3 underway now. This scenario would align with the historical analysis posted over the weekend. This analysis referred to the five historical multi-day/multi-week crashes since 1929. In four of those five events, either a lower intraday low was made after the crash, or a lower weekly close. Since the intraday low is at SPX 840, and the lowest weekly close is at 899.20, one or both of these levels in likely to be exceeded before a significant uptrend can get underway. For now, the short term 1-2-3 down from the recent high at SPX 1044 appears mostly likely. The important support pivots to observe are at SPX 912, 848, 789, and 768 the 2002 low. Should the market trade down to the 848 pivot, and bounce off that level for a number off days, it could form a diagonal triangle 5th wave. Should the market break that support pivot and trade to the lower 789 pivot, it could complete the 5th wave there. Near this pivot there are numerous short term, medium term and long term fibonacci relationships. Review the SPX hourly and daily charts. At some point in the not too distant future, the market should experience a 38.2% to 50% retracement of the entire bear market thus far. Should it launch from the 789 pivot, the likely target is the pivot at SPX 1179. In each the five historical crashes, after the market finally settled at a low, it either made new highs or retraced 50% of the entire decline. Something to look forward to in the not too distant future.
MEDIUM TERM: downtrend low at SPX 840 being challenged
LONG TERM: bear market, Primary wave A still under way
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Hi Egoldspot,
A temporary low for Gold but looks lower.
Hank now calling for 27th low as well
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Hi Tony, my question is on GOLD, do you think we at temp low?
Closed right on the 76-78% Fib retrace and just below Tony\’s key 912 pivot. In addition, my 15min RSI indicators have nearly touched 50 with this rise. Given that setup and a potential 3 of 3 count down from 985, tomorrow morning could be the key as to whether or not we see a low below 840.
Excellent, Lee!
Serg, we will see. We are very near! My message is to those who read post and put their entire worth of position not for pros like you. Trade light!
right to 912 pivot….sweet Im done 4 the week guys ..have a good one
Intraday or weekly low I mean.
908 was a .764 retrace of 858–>923. Fairly common for wave 2s. Above that is a bullish warning with 923 as confirmation and a pattern re-evaluation required. 1-2-1-2 down from 985 is still alive which is much worse if it happens than the EDT to a slight new low.
Also no new daily or weekly close yet.
Like to see Chicago Bears back to the Super Bowl! We ruled the late 80\’s!
Sorry, those are w5-1 & w5-2 nos.
Can this whole day be some kind of a flat? Otherwise it looks like a 1-2-1-2 starting up. Confused.
Here\’s a possible alternative: w3-1: 9285-8243, w3-2: 8243-somewhere between 8800-9050. Dow #s
>Remeber this is last train for bears, before Tony\’s B
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California Bears go into hybernation in December
Mine shows we are in mid-way 3 of 5 from 1276. I see lot of chopiness as biggies unload. We should be in range 780-880. Remeber this is last train for bears, before Tony\’s B Wise word don\’t be greedy, this is not time to be GREEDY. Look back 1576-880. If you can\’t make enough through this, then you can\’t do any better with 100 or so here and there!
Surpassing 902 has eliminated the EDT scenario mentioned. However, 923 is needed to eliminate the 1-2-1-2 from 985
S2, thx..
It was free $$$ 2 day EGOgold!!
yesterdays low held on 1 minute beware
Can\’t EVER hold overnight in this market!! Getting tired of this. Seems like as soon as an interpretation looks good, 6 million more enter the picture to invalidate it.
egoldspotOctober 23 3:36 PM
cheers! Tony.
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hmm..did i miss anything, I guess not. So biggies are unloading bear…time to look at bull
Im not that smart MCK..its just that 2:30 seems to be the volume surge lately
I should say could already be in 3 of 3 from 985 with 893 as the top of the 1-2-1-2…if this is not an EDT near the 840 low.
Puddy, I pucked a few times..
hmm..did i miss anything, I guess not. So biggies are unloading bear…time to look at bull
cheers! Tony.
By my preferred count, SPX could be about to begin 3 of 3 from 985 where wave 5 started. However, I am noicing a possibility. Instead of 1-2-1-2 down from 985, it could be 1-2-3-4-EDT 5th…
876=a
923=b
858=c
893=d
850ish appears to be where the triangle line crosses now for "e" although overthrow could carry to 840ish, maybe even a slight new low with positive divergences at this stage. So, if 835-855 holds, there could be a blastoff possibly part of a bull move, possibly just a Fib retrace of 985 to 930. If 835-840 fails, 3 of 3 from 985 is underway and sub-800 here we come. Be careful about the potential EDT.
no.
Jumping around so much I\’m getting seasick.
Lee, are you saying that the big boys are flushing out the shorts in the market in preparation for taking it down?
2;30 CT is the time the big boys start swingin hard
at 882
pits short…
Geez, I was going to hold short overnight but I don\’t understand that late afternoon short covering.
Lee, S2, thx…
crazy time now good luck…
C=1.6A at 896ish
dang…
looks like 3 waves up off the low..covered at 88800
Lee, you picked the bottom!
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YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Frank! We are almost there!!!!!
sry, guess they are covering…Tell him the good part…Duke & Duke get the commissions…
Lee, is the pit still short?
Im just scalping…Duke & Duke r making a killing off me..
long at 860
Serg, 880? what kind of trade is neowave suggesting? does it mean buy up to 880?
http://finviz.com/map.ashx?t=sec cool site..
McHugh:
The HUI and precious metals are discountind deflation,which if that happens will end capitalism in America. The MasterPlanners have to put together the mother of all stimulus packages,including spending increases on infrastructure, and a historic rebate of10 years of income taxes, requiring half of that money to pay off debt,which would wash a ton of toxic assets in the system. Something likethis will likely happen, if sound minds and leadership take charge, butby the looks of things, it may take a long while before it happens,after a lot more pain has struck.
MCK Im thinking about the next hour LOL !!!
ALL TRADERSReturn to FULLY Long on a Dec. rally to 880.00 with a stop at today\’slow (whatever that happens to be on entry). This trade is "good" as longas Dec.\’s low is above 836.
This should be the LAST time we have to try getting Long the S&P. Ifthis doesn\’t work, I will have to assume my count is wrong and somethingunknown is going on. Keep in mind, it typically takes 3 times to catch amajor market turn.
Glenn NeelyNEoWave, Inc.
I haven\’t traded futures…..are you thinking drop at the open in the morning?
u watch it MCK!!!
If ur trading futures u have to watch this stuff..
but ur correct it blew thru it but still keep an eye on it..
buying on 2nd low is tough!
Lee, significance of watching yesterday\’s low (other than it was taken out)?
watch yesterdays low here…..
thanks Lee..
pits short….
LETS GO!!!! C\’MON!!!!!!!
My short term projections SPX 789 pivot same as Tonys for wave 5…time target Oct 27 th or Oct 30th…then wave IV up to 900 levels then Wave V down to 700 SPX….for the final low…..
God bless
Looks like it\’s going back to retest the breakdown from the 200mMA
buy \’em!!!
Is this w3 of 5 underway?
that said how bout a screaming short covering…
Thanks kevin I was just wondering what he was saying…
Be careful guys..trade the tape
Neely going long again at 880 Dec, as long as 836 holds. Says…it typically takes 3 times to catch a major market turn. If it doesn\’t happen, he has to assume his count is wrong.
slap me silly and call me sally!
let\’s not to jinx ourselves.. : )
impulsive 3, yes bear can\’t tak it down… bears might be running low on gas now… look at volume/price action, either bears are running out of gas (coming down lower on low volume of late) or this is a trick to trick the bulls?
Trick or Treat?!
like to see that!
Got some serious RSI divergence on all time frame… (1/15/30) So who vote for we close flat today?
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just wait until this afternoon when the margin calls kick in & they start REALLY tossing stocks out the window!
Just working thru the congestion…….200 month MA is a big support level.
I luv u guys, yes indeed
egoldspot is buying the beer for everyone today.. : )
I am off for today, I am cheez out today
More Beer! On the Rocks Party!
incredible…bears can\’t take it down…
Hi George,You think we have seen the low for Gold for now ?
It\’s not on message but ..http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=1095451&ch=6037204&cl=10343469&src=ukyvideo
oh baby oh baby!
Dow numbers, of course.
If w5-1 & w5-2 completed yesterday & today (w5-1: 9285 to 8335, w5-2: 8335 to 8796), then I calculate w5-3 to end around 6896 minimum.
So, how was the waterfall decline in gold that i mentioned a week and half back? Now, wait and see the big up move in indices. Should be fast and furious.
Close on the lows would be ugly. Got a breakeven stop again for them to pick off.
Am watching FRE for $.25 as an indicator of the potential bottom. Currently at $.76
I wouldn\’t count on that breakdown just yet. It could still be a 1×1 ABC to 932, with this down leg being B.
This is the third try at cracking the 200mMA (Dow 8470)….should break to the downside.
Silver appears to be trending lower…$6.00 levels to come…Morgan Stanley (MS) weekly chart Bank stocks should be the first to lead the retracement upward once this market hits it short term low…Will Morgan Stanley hold above its lows? Or make a new low?
Odds favor its going to stay above the lowest price…about three week ago…God bless
Here we go!
Breakdown? Not much danger of 950+ now.
That count is gone. Gotta go for a while.
Oil and some ag is about all that\’s supporting the market.
Banking and financials also weak. Just mega caps holding up.
NDX and RUT weak here. Confirmation that a breakdown is coming, just the timing in question.
Am watching DE to take out low of this morning……